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Old 01-19-2010, 09:35 PM
Illum_the_nation Illum_the_nation is offline
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I was looking around the local scrap yard [with permission to take what I can use] the other day looking for hinges and plate aluminum when I ran across a moldy pallet half submerged in water. There as a U shaped steel component sticking out the side, so I went ahead and dug in.

I found a total of 6 panels, 1 of them completely submerged in water. They were so dirty that had I looked from a different angle I would not have seen the reflection of polycrystalline silicon shining back at me through a crack in the caking.

The assembly looked like it was steeped in mud then baked dry, I had no confidence that they will work at all. I figure hey, if they don't work I can at least have them on display. After close to an hour and a half of scrubbing with a sponge and soap water I've restored them to their original shine. Now the problem is the labels were peeled off (or faded). I was surprised, after severing off the rusted connectors the (18AWG) wire under the insulation is brand new and the 5 that I brought back all worked.

Doing this at night under Florescent lights. They were tested about 6" away from them
OCV: ~15V, could be more
CCV: ~13V, I found this kinda odd, I was using a 1 ohm 10W wirewound resistor...what I had available.
CCC: ~ 25ma
OCC: ~50ma

Physical Dimensions: L x W x H: 16.5" x 10.5" x 1"
Type: Polycrystalline
Configuration: 18S2P

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I plan to retrieve the 6th panel that's last seen submerged with only the pigtail sticking out, maybe its serviceable, I dunno for sure.
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Old 01-20-2010, 08:01 AM
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Ahh-dude! You just made my day! You'll be able to charge up some batteries and run some LED lighting with those babies! Also will be nice for charging rechargeable batteries for all your flashlights!
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Old 01-21-2010, 09:43 AM
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Great find Illum! I can't believe those were thrown into a scrap yard like trash! I don't recognise yours, but an internet search found these panels that look similar: http://www.batterystuff.com/solar-chargers/BSP10w.html and http://www.wholesalesolar.com/produc...BSP/BSP10.html

The ones in these links appear to be PowerUp brand 10w panels and they sell for $90 - $120 a piece! Way to go! I'm quite jealous!
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Old 01-21-2010, 04:43 PM
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well...I'm thinking of going back to the scrap yard to see if I can retrieve the one half stuck in the lake. I'm not sure if the owner at the scrap yard realize these are still functional, and I don't intend to get away with it without telling him.

It's one thing on the conscience I can afford to live without
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Old 01-22-2010, 12:15 PM
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well, I've been cleared. The 6th panel was retrieved, without the propping hinge.

Turns out these are 20W panels
Under partial sun I'm reading 20VDC, ~700ma, upwards of 850ma

in the planning
Controller: http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...5524_200265524
Battery: Optima? 10AM-3PM of sunshine, approx 5hr x 4A = 20AH charging capacity
Inverter: http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/sto...oductId=672624

I'm hoping to use two of these panels to built a ventilation system for the utility shed, the other four will be part of a battery charging project...
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Old 01-25-2010, 12:59 PM
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Ah... I read your PM before seeing the latest post. If your no-load Voltage is about 20... then you can consider these as nominal 12V panels, BTW.
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Old 01-27-2010, 06:29 PM
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show us pics when you are set up!

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Old 07-23-2010, 10:55 AM
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I hope this link helps identify these panels.

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/41421.pdf

Out in the country, I've seen this connected to utility boxes, poles, and emergency call boxes. Guess that some storm or event caused the utility co to dump 'em all.
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Old 07-30-2010, 08:36 PM
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donutz28, big thanks to you for finding the PDF, I've given up long ago and decided it wasn't worth the trouble to use these on anything productive


I've given 4 of them away to a friend who is in the process of making a battery operated 4WD wheelchair "for the fun of it" and hes using them to charge batteries.

the other 2 is now planted on my utility shed, connected to 8 12V fans and keeping the shed quite cool during the hot summer days. Its direct drive, so it'll throttle up and down in RPM throughout the day

Shed


Inter-tie under awning


Fans


can you believe that for the entire setup all I needed was the $1.25 terminal block? these fans were literally brand new and installed in a server tower that was thrown out and abandoned...so with a pair of dikes, a philips head, and two aftenoons I salvaged 16 of these fans, ~10 Gamma32 120mm blowfans, and numerous others including 3 2" thick block fans that pulled about 1.6A on 12V

One of the biggest hazard is the heat, the other is vapor concentration. The shed houses the wood workshop and lawn mowers, as well as being chock full of gasoline, 2-cycle gas, waste oil, new oil, lube oil, paint, primer, paint thinner, acetone, caustic solvents, rubbing alcohol, grain alcohol, solid fertilizer, liquid fertilizer, aersol cans, over a pound of potassium nitrate and a decent box of fireworks...now in all of this is where I solder, testing homemade incendiary devices [in a forced air 50cal steel can with a spark arrestor], and work on HV circuits that creates sparks. To help cut down on the noise the fans were wired 4S2P for 24V operation...its a good thing too because 1S8P the fans wont turn whatsoever [each fan was rated ~500ma and drew about 300 each] the modules are connected in parallel and peaks around 17V in full sun. the fans are estimated to be running at 50-60% capacity. I have another 8 wired in a similar manner on the adjacent window to vent out. On max it draws 12V 2.6A out of my 4A supply and when its on I can't hear myself think, but it sure does pitch out alot of air, even more than the box fan dad had installed. Being bigger than the window by over half it did the best it could swirling the solder smoke around the room instead of venting it out.

And yes, theres a pull chain switch that leads all the way out to a safe distance from the shed that I can disable the fans in the event of a fire so it won't fuel the mess by forcing in more air.

I don't plan on charging cells with these modules, I'm planning to invest in a single piece 50W module for that.

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Old 08-10-2010, 01:19 AM
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nice new ac unit..
lol
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:40 PM
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Fans and solar panels work very well together. Your window fans work just like those solar powered attic fans. Silent at night when you need to sleep. And during a hot sunny day, cranking full speed.
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:00 PM
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nice new ac unit..
lol
yeah, its alot more pleasant to stand in front of that workbench now, it used to be
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Old 09-03-2010, 10:03 AM
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Great project on a minimum amount of cash. Thanks for the pics!
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